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I'm on another mission.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:05 am
by Rebs
Having kicked a hole in a long standing brick wall, it has of course expanded my area of research. My mysterious George Brown has finally been identified as a convict, sent to Tasmania in 1851 aboard the "Rodney."

His indents and other records have him born 1822 in Kent, although I have him born 1820 based on marriage and death certs.
Personal info from convict records have his parents as John and Charlotte. With brothers Charles and William and sisters Elizabeth, Eliza ( same person ??? ) and Charlotte. Native place was listed as Clapham. As of yet I have not been able to find the births for any of them, nor have I been able to track them on a census. George himself should have been on the 1841, but of course was in Australia by the next one.

Georges death cert has his parents as John Brown and Charlotte Cassidy/Cassiday - the informant was wife Bridget.

The birth cert for his last born child states he was born Chapman Common in Kent. The informant was his first born daughter Charlotte. Possibly she mixed Clapham up with Chapman ???

Any suggestions on where to look armed with the above info peoples ???

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:35 pm
by Stu in Hastings
Quick look on FMP found these for 1820 +/- 2 years. Don't who the Fathers of them were as having problems signing in.

BROWN George 1819 Woolwich Kent

BROWN George 1819 Northfleet Kent

BROWN George 1820 Woolwich Kent

BROWN George 1822 Dartford Kent

BROWN George Aaron 1820 Chatham Kent

BROWN George William Leach 1821 Greenwich Kent

BROWN George Wm Leach 1821 Greenwich Kent

BROWN John George 1822 Greenwich Kent

BROWN John George 1822 Greenwich Kent
On Ancestry John George 1822 Greenwich. His fathers is John but mother listed as Elizabeth, so not likely to be him.

I've heard of Clapham Common but not a Chatham Common which is the only other name I can think of which Chapman Common sounds like.

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:44 pm
by Dizzi R.I.P.
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About this collection
name: William John Brown
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Jan 1818
baptism/christening place: THE WHITE CHAPEL-WESLEYAN,SHEERNESS,KENT,ENGLAND
birth date: 02 Oct 1816
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Brown
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Charlotte
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C06861-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0597068 (RG4 1988)


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Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:58 pm
by Rebs
Thank you darling. Clapham Common is a big help as it shows I'm on the right track with the convict idea. I'm pretty sure it is him anyway, but I need to find the family in a census or some sort of birth details to concrete him in. Ancestry is not co-operating with the cross-matching as yet. Wish it would all just fall into place already, but I guess that is the nature of genealogy, lol

THAT LOOKS PROMISING DIZZ. WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF ANY SIBLINGS COME UP UNDER THAT BATCH NO. THANK YOU :D

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:20 am
by Dizzi R.I.P.
found this one but not o your list

name: John David Brown
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Jul 1820
baptism/christening place: THE WHITE CHAPEL-WESLEYAN,SHEERNESS,KENT,ENGLAND
birth date: 21 Jun 1819

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:27 am
by Rebs
WHAT RELIGION DOES WESLEYAN FOLLOW ??? NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEFORE NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE RC.

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:04 am
by Q
Protestant, C of E. Think it could be part of the Uniting Church here.

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:46 am
by JALimestone Plains
Wesleyian, named after John Wesley - I think they are methodists before they joined with the congrationalists and became the uniting church as Q said :D

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:51 am
by Rebs
Thank you ladies. Might be worth having a browse through the Dr. Williams Library indexes. Just need to remember where I found them last time I needed them. :lol:

Re: I'm on another mission.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:25 am
by Dizzi R.I.P.
Henry Matthew brown. 23july1821
John 21june 1819
William John 20 oct 1816
These are birth dates not baptisms date
Parents John and Charlotte