SGR Boards

THANKS JA. NO RUSH. I AM STILL WAITING TO HEAR
BACK FROM JULIE.

SHE IS A VERY BUSY GIRL. SHE HAS JUST GOT A NEW JOB AS
PROBATION OFFICER TO THE COURTS. SHE HAS TO RECOMMEND
SENTENCES TO THE JUDGES AND MAGISTRATES. VERY RESPOSIBLE
AND I THINK A STRESSFUL JOB.

No luck so far with 1911 - will look later - I'll put the mother in.
Neville's daughter sounds like a clever person with a very respons ible job

Bingo

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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WILLIAMS, Joseph Head Single M 39 1872 Labourer Bury Lanc VIEW
BRADFORD, Mary Annie Boarder Widow F 51 1860 Dressmaker Ripon Yorks VIEW
BRADFORD, Hubert Vincent Boarder Single M 17 1894 Errand Lad Manchester Lanc VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24217 Reference:
RG14PN24217 RG78PN1390 RD467 SD3 ED4 SN145

Registration District:
Prestwich Sub District:
Blackley Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
North Manchester

Address:
79 Lee Road Harpurhey Manchester County:
Lancashire

Cannot find a birth for Hubert - 1891 census has Mary Annie as a widow - I am wondering if Hubert was born over the blanket

I think he must have been. Maybe the real father was the Joseph Williams.
On both the 1901 and 1911 census Mary and Hubert are boarding with him.

Thanks for that.

Q, looked for births for Hubert Vincent 1893 to 1896 - two but surnames are not Bradford or Williams, although some Hubert Williams. I think DIZZI is right when she says you need to get the marriage certificate of Hubert and ELizabeth - to see the father's name. Maybe you will have more luck than I did when sent for the so called youngest son of my George and Mary Armitage nee Lofthouse - his will list gives the rest of the family as inheritors - his birth certificate does not have a father listed so it looks like he was a half brother as george had died two years before he was born - what tangled webs they wove to survive as women in a very alien world without a man as provider

Heard back from Julie and the eldest daughter Janette.
Hubert Vincent Bradford and Elizabeth Smith are the
right grandparents, think I will need to get their marriage certificate.
Where is the best place to get them now, please.

JA, One of Neville's ancesters had several children obviously
out of wedlock, and my gt grandmother has no father listed on her
birth certificate. Along with a brother.

I got to thinking, there will be a lot like that with the young ones today.
I wouldn't like to be a genealogist in 100 years time.

Q
try the link below - ordered directly from the general records office of UK - I think around 9 pounds 50p, much cheaper than form other sites who charge more. I suggest you register your details with GRO.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... efault.asp